the locals homepage

cb | hfx | moncton | pei | nf | fred
It is currently Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:40 am

All times are UTC - 4 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 46 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: ATTN ALL - IMMEDIATE MESSAGE!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:57 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 18, 2005 11:39 am
Posts: 1625
Location: Woozley Farm
Tonight, a NEO-NAZI, Jared Taylor is speaking at the Lord Nelson Hotel, on Spring Garden Road. There is a rally at 6:20PM to let him know that he is not welcome in our community. Bring noisemakers and masks. ;)

_________________
"But it's supposed to be terrible, right? Punk?"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:55 pm
Posts: 1973
Location: Halifax
bump

I hope to be there.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:03 am
Posts: 187
Location: allan st
who is he and why's he speaking here?
curious


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:15 pm
Posts: 4096
Location: Halifax
Image

_________________
Hectorious wrote:
GONG! THIS IS STUPID!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:17 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:55 pm
Posts: 1973
Location: Halifax
Quote:
Passing this on, show up for 6:0 if you can.

Hey folks,

So it seems that Jared Taylor, the American Renaissance writer with white
supremacist leanings is in fact coming to Halifax to speak tonight, Tuesday,
January 16th. He'll be arguing against racial diversity and immigration and
likely smearing Martin Luther King Jr. day, which was yesterday, as he has
done in year's past (see http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0123-02.htm,
"Jared Taylor - a racist in the guise of 'expert'")...

I propose we meet at Victoria Park at 6:20pm on Tuesday and make sure that
we send a clear unified message that racism and bigotry is more than
unwelcome here!

Bring placards, noisemakers, friends and allies!

Details:
Lord Nelson Hotel, Britannia Room (3rd Floor)
Tuesday, Jan. 16, at 7pm
1515 South Park Street, Halifax
This event is Free.

------------------------------------- <http>

White power website buzzing over Dal debate

By CHRIS LAMBIE Staff Reporter

A white supremacist website based in Florida is touting an upcoming debate
on racial diversity at Dalhousie University.

A message posted on Stormfront.org, which uses the slogan White Pride
Worldwide, advertises the Jan. 15 clash between David Divine, Dal's chair of
black Canadian studies, and Jared Taylor of American Renaissance magazine.

"Hopefully people on the East Coast can spread the word to like-minded
Canadian allies, resulting in a large following to attend and support our
side of the debate," says a Stormfront moderator who goes by the online name
OdinPatrick.

Reporters will be sure to cover the event, the moderator notes.

"And Eastern Canada should receive a good introduction to our philosophy.
Please tell friends of this. . . . If we're lucky, Paul Fromm may attend."

Mr. Fromm is a public supporter of notorious Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel.

A poster on Dal's official website dubs the debate Racial Diversity: North
America's Strength or Weakness?

Reached at his office in Virginia on Wednesday night, Mr. Taylor said he is
looking forward to the event. But he said he heard from one of the
organizers Wednesday that Dal president Tom Traves had decided the event
must not take place.

"He had heard that Nazis were threatening to mob the event," Mr. Taylor
said.

The Dal president, reached at his home Wednesday night, denied any knowledge
of the postings on Stormfront.org .

"I'll have to look into this," Mr. Traves said.

If the debate does take place, Mr. Taylor will argue against racial
diversity and immigration.

"Wherever you look, where people are most diligently killing each other,
it's because diverse populations are trying to share the same territory," he
said.

"The idea that racial or ethnic diversity is a strength and a great benefit
for a country is so obviously wrong and stupid that only very intelligent
people could convince themselves that it's true."

Mr. Taylor admitted that he has, in the past, been accused of being a white
supremacist. But he denied the label.

"I would describe myself as a race realist," Mr. Taylor said. "I think it's
clear that race is an important part of both individual and group identity.
And I believe that, although an attractive notion, the idea that a society
can make race not to matter is a futile one."

The assumption is that "people can come from essentially anywhere in the
world and can assimilate and become first-rate Canadians or first-rate
Americans and that the institutions will continue unchanged, no matter who's
living here and in what numbers. I just think the evidence suggests
otherwise, and I believe that we are dicing with the futures of our
countries if we really do assume that a non-European population will
continue in a manner that our European forebears have established."

Mr. Divine could not be reached for comment.

Stormfront.org was at the centre of a Canadian Human Rights Tribunal hearing
last week in Vancouver.

An Ottawa lawyer filed the complaint against a former Coquitlam, B.C.,
couple in January 2005. It alleged that Jessica Beaumont and her boyfriend,
Ciaran Donnelly, engaged in a discriminatory practice on the grounds of
religion, sexual orientation, race, colour, national or ethnic origin and
disability by posting hateful messages on the Internet. In particular, Ms.
Beaumont's comments on Stormfront.org were considered hateful, the complaint
alleged.

Police raided the couple's Coquitlam home in July of this year, seizing Nazi
memorabilia, computers, clothes and books.

Mr. Taylor said he was surprised to learn the upcoming Halifax debate was
being promoted on Stormfront.org.

"I just learned today that Stormfront had gotten wind of this somehow," he
said Wednesday. "But they're certainly not suggesting that anyone
misbehave."

Mr. Taylor said he is not associated with the website.

"In fact, I am frequently criticized on that site," he said.

The Anti-Defamation League calls Stormfront.org a "veritable supermarket of
online hate."

( clambie@herald.ca<http>
)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:40 am
Posts: 4711
Location: Planet Geigertron
Neo Nazis... what a wonderful concept! Exactly how low does your i.q. have to be before you consider this path in life?

_________________
Image Download Electrophile, The New GEIGER Album! (right-click to download.)
GEIGER
We Can Dance.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:21 pm
Posts: 9613
Image

_________________
Paul F Tompkins Tickets!

All Wound Up!

Minivan Halen


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: ATTN ALL - IMMEDIATE MESSAGE!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:32 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:23 pm
Posts: 321
Location: camden
xTROTSKYx wrote:
Tonight, a NEO-NAZI, Jared Taylor is speaking at the Lord Nelson Hotel, on Spring Garden Road. There is a rally at 6:20PM to let him know that he is not welcome in our community. Bring noisemakers and masks. ;)


Brad, you know, that avatar just looks so much like uncle Peter it freaks me out. be careful tonight and if you don't know what I mean ask your dad what I did in 1983 at an anti-Pentagon investment demo.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:39 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:45 pm
Posts: 1836
Location: seedy mime pub
What's the point of holding/listening to a discussion, when you cut out the side you disagree with (or, in this case, hate)? I hope that's not it. That said, arguing against neo-nazi type racism seems like a pretty redundant debate.

Thanks, Alex.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:53 am
Posts: 4917
Location: Lots of places.
Are you sayign we should have all sorts of public debates with Nazis like their view of the world is valid, deserves respect, demands air time? What are you saying?

_________________
blugrassgirl wrote:
waye, i think it's hot when you state the facts as you see them with an amused and sardonic smirk on your face.

Juas wrote:
Halifax retrograde politicians are making sure NS stays sleeping forever.

AJCrowley wrote:
Waye wrote:
I wake up every morning and say "yeah, awesome, I cannot wait to get my iPod and program Beyonce to play 400 times today, yeah, shoulda puta ring on it, yeah!"



Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:45 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:41 pm
Posts: 10000
Location: Usually One World
I think someone should throw a chair at Geraldo.

_________________
Hectorious wrote:
[url=http://tsutpen.blogspot.com]i have a gear question
can i touch your gear?[/url]


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:00 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2004 1:18 pm
Posts: 1712
Location: northwood terrace
s*w*a*c wrote:
I think someone should throw a chair at Geraldo.


man this thread reminded me of that interview

Actually if you could ask him questions and he isn't using racial slurs I would like to see this.
I do not agree with racism or race supremacy but I do find it interesting watching people make these points of view. Seeing how their mind works and how they justify things.

In that Geraldo interview that swac spoke of one of the skin heads whole heartedly believes that white people will be extint by the year 2000.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:09 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:45 pm
Posts: 1836
Location: seedy mime pub
Waye wrote:
Are you sayign we should have all sorts of public debates with Nazis like their view of the world is valid, deserves respect, demands air time? What are you saying?


Quote:
arguing against neo-nazi type racism seems like a pretty redundant debate.


No, obviously not. If we lived in the early part of last century, yes ... not because it's valid or deserves respect, but because it'd be relevant.
Does Dal think this discussion is relevant for some reason? It's not exactly a tough subject in which to find volumes of arguments & historical examples.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:42 pm
Posts: 1921
Location: 1996 chrysler intrepid
Quote:
"The idea that racial or ethnic diversity is a strength and a great benefit for a country is so obviously wrong and stupid that only very intelligent people could convince themselves that it's true."

By the time I finished reading that sentence I had an odd feeling, almost like waking up from a strange dream.

_________________
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2003 10:54 am
Posts: 8803
Location: Halifax
in a university setting everything/everyone should have a voice. even if you're a neo-nazi you should still have the right to argue what you believe in, regardless of how incredibly stupid what you believe in is.

the lord nelson, being a privately-owned establishment is a pretty fitting spot for it. public grounds, however, i wouldn't encourage. i'll defend the neo-nazi right to say whatever they want in a private forum as much as i'd defend an anti-gay-rights activist, a pro-life conservative, or a hard line christian group... i don't agree with what they're saying, but i don't think that discouraging them from saying it is a good idea. a rally isn't going to make them stand up and say "wow, gee, i should probably stop being a racist", but i suppose that isn't the point of your rally anyways... i digress, as long as they're not pushing people against their will into this meeting, they have full right to speak their minds.

end rant.

also: dear racists, anti-gay rights activists, pro-lifers, and hardline christians: i hate you and everything you stand for.

_________________
"I have inculcated myself into ignorance." - Bill Shatner


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 46 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC - 4 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group